Permit parking only? (Roads)

Thu 20 Mar, 18:09

Bibury has its own parking problems, of course: https://www.rabbies.com/en/blog/story-peter-maddox-and-yellow-vauxhall

Thu 20 Mar, 17:07

Fewer trout, though.

Thu 20 Mar, 15:54

One Chinese tourist to another "Bibury same as Charlbury? "Yes, yes same not even different".

Thu 20 Mar, 13:21

Also re the tourist parking, a lot of the Chinese/east Asian tourists aren't even wanting to be here anyway. They're all looking for Arlington Row, and for some reason their googling is resulting in them ending up in the car park here rather than in Bibury. 

Thu 20 Mar, 13:14

Liz I haven't seen the parking in church st, so not sure where it is, but it uphill to the co-op which makes it difficult for anyone with limited mobility but not having a blue badge. I appreciate it's difficult spacewise, but it's the kind of thing that sends people to Witney because it's flatter and easier to access.

Thu 20 Mar, 12:13

It's a bit sad to see swathes of empty spaces along Park Street and other Permit Holders only streets while businesses and visitors to the Coop and Community Centre, many of whom are elderly, or have young children in tow, are struggling to park. Unintended consequences? 

Thu 20 Mar, 09:32

The problem is that OCC has an urban mentality - in Oxford city it makes perfect sense that businesses should not have parking permits and should encourage their staff to come in by public transport, but that doesn’t work in Charlbury. So now the spendlove is getting filled up with all day parkers who have no other option. 

Wed 19 Mar, 19:50 (last edited on Wed 19 Mar, 19:51)

The bell provides excellent parking facilities, creating more spaces, but the problem has been apparent before the re opening, of both these venues and the other restaurants and facilities that draw people into the town centre. It has always been problematic, and with the popularity of Charlbury, people will come, with all forms of transportation, so the need for parking on the only available spaces is obvious. Well done to the Bell, even though your wonderful looking wall has been despised by a few !

Wed 19 Mar, 14:34

Chris there is no provision for business users. In the Shaw & Co offices 3 staff live in the centre of the town and have permits or off street parking. 2 more from outside have already had a problem including Rosie our bookkeeper, who brings her baby Bea to the office to work at this enlightened employer LOL.  It wasnt really thought about but then I have always said the town does not really want to encourage local services only moan when there are none. Another car park at the bottom of Park Street or on a small part of Wychwood Paddocks is the obvious answer - but then when you can cycle to Witney for services why worry.

Wed 19 Mar, 14:21

Matt - on reflection, the idea of bollards was not so attractive because of the impact on those who are visually impaired.

Wed 19 Mar, 14:20

Becky - parking is available for up to three hours on Church Street, in addition to the residents' parking. That is intended to provide spaces for those using businesses in the town centre.

Wed 19 Mar, 13:23 (last edited on Wed 19 Mar, 14:07)

Christopher, no, there has been no provision made for people who have to park for work here. Currently, its not been a huge problem for us as the CO-OP carpark is fairly empty prior to 8am when most of our staff start work, but we do have some later starters who have struggled more than normal. I feel guilty that we are using so much of the carpark but dont really see an other options available. I have sent a message to OCC to see if there has been any movement on business permits but I am not holding my breath for a positive reply.

Wed 19 Mar, 12:19 (last edited on Wed 19 Mar, 14:15)

Can those who work in Charlbury park anywhere in central town for 3 hours plus, except the Co-op car park? 

Not sure why Mark mentions the Bell, they have been community spirited and  expanded their car park. 

Wed 19 Mar, 11:52

The scheme is working really well. I spotted 21 spaces free in the town centre whereas I needed to wait for a space to become available in the CO-OP carpark. Where are people staying for longer than 3 hours supposed to park?

Tue 18 Mar, 21:55

Was a problem before the Bull and the Bell reopened - just lack of parking for many years , having lived on Market Street and Dyers Hill for over 35 years , an informed opinion with no political agenda.  

Tue 18 Mar, 15:44

Here's a picture of a bus getting stuck one weekend evening...

Tue 18 Mar, 15:26 (last edited on Tue 18 Mar, 15:45)

With poor parking at the top of Church Street, often by customers of the Bull in the evenings but not always, means that the buses cannot get through and get stuck. I and many others have seen it happen on several occasions. The bus driver then honks his horn hoping the owner of the car will hear and move it.

Unfortunately those in the Bull cannot hear the bus honking (but those in the Rose and Crown, outside the back, often see and hear it happening and try to help). This is, I think, the general scenario that Paul is referring to but do correct me if I am wrong.

I can't say for sure but the van in the picture below might be a delivery van of some kind. He/she shouldn't park there but, if they are delivering, won't be there for too long. Visitors to the Bull and their cars are often there for many hours.

There was talk of permanent bollards on the pavement at the top of Church Street to stop people parking there and hence avoid blocking the buses. Does anyone know if that is still happening?

Tue 18 Mar, 13:47 (last edited on Tue 18 Mar, 14:16)

This is the reason your post is ridiculous!!!

Tue 18 Mar, 08:47

Paul Honey

The re-opening of the Bull yesterday has no bearing on the honking of horns so why make such a ridiculous assumption?

Mon 17 Mar, 10:16 (last edited on Mon 17 Mar, 10:32)

I spoke to the OCC Highways chap, who was inspecting the work done so far this morning, and he said Browns Lane won't have its new residents' permit markings for about another month now, as cars were left there when the painting was supposed to take place last week. 

Meanwhile, The Bull re-opens today so that the honking horns of the stuck buses can start ringing out again in earnest. 

Mon 17 Mar, 09:00

Just saw a parking warden scanning car number plates at 9am on the first day of the parking scheme...

Sun 16 Mar, 20:00 (last edited on Sun 16 Mar, 20:01)

As raised on so many occasions, the Train users are the major contributing factor and always have been . It just keep going around in circles, nothing changing , and the suggestion to walk and cycle - makes so little difference over the years this has been suggested. If it was going to work , it would have done so by now ?  The majority of road use is by motor vehicles, so provide what the demand is , not ideals of what we are told and influenced to satisfy the personal agenda  of others ! 

Charlbury needs parking and allow the people who have to commute to have the ability to do so .

Fri 14 Mar, 06:18

Monday - Saturday 8am till 6pm. If I understand it correctly, on Church Street for example, you can park all night until 8am, then stay for a further 3 hours so you need to move by 11am. You can then come back at 3pm, Park your allowed 3 hours until 6pm and then stay all night. It seems there schemes are directly aimed at the train commuters and people who need to park for work. 

Thu 13 Mar, 20:05

Is it a true fact that the parking restrictions are only until 6pm?

Thu 13 Mar, 14:59 (last edited on Thu 13 Mar, 18:55)

I have just received an email from Christian Mauz at OCC with the official parking restriction etc. shown. Interesting, Church Street residents have been omitted from the list of addresses being eligible for parking permits (extract below). Does this mean it will need to be re-written?

3. Eligible properties:

Residents are able to apply for annual Residents and Visitors` Parking Permits and a

local identifier of `CH` will be shown on permits and on road signage for bays where

restrictions apply. Properties eligible to apply will be residents of Bayliss Yard,

Browns Lane, Church Lane, Dyers Hill, Fishers Lane, Market Street, Park Street,

Sheep Street, Thames Street, and The Playing Close

Mon 24 Feb, 21:28

So in other words much expenditure for no progress. Ho hum.

Mon 24 Feb, 14:58

Charlie, I wouldn't of thought so. I think the parking restrictions finish at 6pm so I suspect they wont bother, but we will have to wait and see.

Mon 24 Feb, 13:52

And will these cars with ANPR cameras fitted and traffic wardens be in operation on Friday and Saturday evenings, during the hours that could become known in Charlbury as "bus-blocking time"?! 

I remain sceptical! 

Mon 24 Feb, 13:25

Thank you, Simon. It feels like very little will change having spoken to someone recently who told me "it's common knowledge that you can park on double yellows in Charlbury without any issues". We shall see.

Fri 21 Feb, 18:39

George, apparently they have cars with ANPR cameras fitted which detect vehicles which have not got a permit. Obviously this won’t work with areas where you can park for a period of time, so this will rely on traffic wardens. The Town Council meeting we went to said that the extra traffic warden visits would be paid for by funds raised by the parking permits, but the maths does not add up in my head. How many permits are they hoping to sell, and what is the actual cost of a traffic warden attending the town?

Fri 21 Feb, 12:28

Forgive my ignorance if this has been detailed in another thread but how will they enforce these new measures? 

Fri 21 Feb, 12:21

I have just sent an email to the Town Clerk requesting that the Agenda for next week's meeting of the Town Council include the issue of the promised monitoring of the  Parked Cars Dispersal Scheme. Extracts from my email are set out below in the hope that more local residents will attend the meeting. Its always good fun.

Dear Lisa

May I request that councillors find time to discuss their proposed modus operandi in relation to the promised monitoring of the impact of the Parked Cars Dispersal Scheme. You will call that residents were assured that matters would be reviewed after six months.

If councillors can find time to discuss this matter it would be appreciated by many residents – especially those residing in roads outside the town centre who, as I am sure councillors will agree, will experience an upturn in the level of parked cars by their homes. Will there be made any attempt to record the pre-implementation level of parked cars in, say for example, Wychwood Paddocks, Ticknell Piece Road and Crawborough (to name but a few) in order to compare and contrast the present with that with the post-dispersal situation.

Kevin Slevin

Fri 21 Feb, 11:24

I have just been informed by the lady currently going around putting the signs up that from the salon down is permit parking only. Shame. Please Town Council source another car park urgently.

Fri 21 Feb, 10:55

I can’t seem to find any updated information regarding the new parking system within the town, I was under the impression that Sheet Street outside our salon Clarimore Beautique would be permit parking and limited parking for non-permit holders - One hour only but the officers comments reads a compromise of two hours could be reached! Which we were desperately hoping for our business. Unfortunately at present only permit parking signs have gone up, leaving us very anxious of our future.

Any more information would be greatly received, thank you.