Fix my street at the Crossroads

Fri 20 Sep, 19:16

Done so on many occasions. It doesn't stop it happening and in the scheme of things makes no difference, been the subject matter on this forum many times and the cost of an ANPR camera will be self funding and prevent the bridge from further damage and future high cost repair and potential collapse. That’s a good way to calm traffic and budget / raise revenue for repairs In my simple opinion 

Fri 20 Sep, 18:50 (last edited on Fri 20 Sep, 18:51)

If you see an HGV going over the bridge near the station you can report it here 

https://service.oxfordshire.gov.uk/reporthighwaysbreach

Trading Standards do prosecute them

Fri 20 Sep, 10:41

HGV s over the river bridge continues to be a problem and regularly ignored . Once these large vehicles have committed to follow the intended route , it is difficult, if not impossible to alter the course! 

Thu 19 Sep, 23:03

Philip, a weight limit restriction usually includes a notice saying, "except for access". However, if the weight limit is imposed due to a structural issue (such as a weak bridge) no such exemption is shown. Deliveries to co-op, larger buses,  etc. which need access within the limit area can continue as they do now. 

But, hgvs going from, for example, the A44 to Witney directly via the Enstone crossroads wouldn't be able to do so legally, enforcement action can be taken (in the same manner as hgvs using the town's river bridge).

Thu 19 Sep, 20:23

Perhaps a few feet of this on the corner might negate the need for repeated repairs, although it is not visually appealing: https://www.externalworksindex.co.uk/entry/33494/Marshalls/Titan-highcontainment-concrete-kerb/

Thu 19 Sep, 08:15 (last edited on Thu 19 Sep, 08:26)

Simon and David - Not that simple I’m afraid. It’s not cars but HGVs (and buses) that do the scrubbing damage on tight slow left turns such as this. To ban HGVs completely from the whole of Charlbury would be to the detriment of most of us and might even kill off the Co-op. This junction is also on the preferred HGV route for events at Cornbury. 

Tue 17 Sep, 18:20

Just caught up with this - there is work going on at OCC on an HGV strategy for the Windrush area which includes Charlbury. At the moment there is monitoring happening on HGV movements which will eventually inform a plan for HGV routes

Tue 17 Sep, 10:09

Unfortunately the road system of an historical market town is , along with the parking , insufficient as it currently exists? The wonderful co op ( not many towns are lucky enough to have the same facilities and opening hours we have with our local shop ) . We hr Co op is not sufficient in size to cater for the population and use .

Therefore - is Charlbury at full capacity for 

Schools , Doctors , Parking , Supermarkets, Roads  ? 

The expansion of Charlbury has been progressive with many new properties. Do we have the capacity for more strain on our existing facilities and infrastructure ? 

Tue 17 Sep, 09:24

I’m guessing the suggestion was that the existing town centre weight limit (which already includes the Co-op) be extended to the Slade and Nine Acres Lane.

As I understand it there’s a difference between an environmental weight limit, which is what the town centre has, and which allows access for deliveries; and a physical weight limit, which is what the river bridge has, and which is a blanket “none shall pass”. 

Tue 17 Sep, 08:00 (last edited on Tue 17 Sep, 08:02)

So how does David think the Co-op would manage without full-size lorries - and what would his "request" do to the Co-op's operating costs and the availability of the food it sells? 

After all, the Co-op's got next to no storage space behind its selling area. At the very least, a blanket lorry ban would need to exempt the Co-op, or the road between the Co-op and Enstone Rd crossroads. Or possibly exempt the Co-op during certain times. But such exemptions would impact the Co-op - and many Charlburians, and even more non-Charlburians who depend on the Co-op to buy their daily essentials.

The very simplest  question anyone ought to ask before making a "request" like David's would be "how would it affect the Co-op?"

Has David asked the Co-op how his "request" would affect it? 

If not, why not?  And if so, what did the Co-op say?

Mon 16 Sep, 22:47

Request OCC introduces a 7.5t weight limit covering all of Charlbury. Clearly that wouldn't 'block' deliveries, etc. into the town, it would though reduce significantly the volume of through HGVs.

Mon 16 Sep, 21:18

Could the answer not simply be that there is too much traffic and that is what is destroying the road....and most of the other roads in most of the country. If traffic was reduced by 50% would the surface then last 50% longer.

Mon 9 Sep, 11:41

What about a curb like this? Seen at the Buttercross in Witney.

Sun 8 Sep, 21:28

There should be traffic lights at that junction 

Sun 8 Sep, 13:01

The Enstone, Banbury, Nine Acres and Slade crossroads is busy. Essentially it should be similarly robust and safe enough for all users. The pavement widening on the Slade turn was effective in reducing the ‘strangle room ‘ for pedestrians a few years ago. Most drivers are very considerate at the busy crossing for pedestrians. And the changes in the highway code have made a difference. The lateral pothole now fills with water and it is a deficit in vision for all users. Hearing the tyres pop and axles strain does not make for safe traverse around that horrible little bend; especially what a big truck is trundling down Banbury hill to go left, and another on maximum air-brake to go right up Enstone. Notwithstanding, it id just the geography we  have to work with.👍

Thu 5 Sep, 09:22

Thanks, Damian. I don't think the engineers ever got it right when they redesigned the junction very slightly a year ago.

@Liz, please can the contractors who do the repair use the very hardwearing, smooth kerbstones that have been used in Frideswide Square in Oxford? These have been driven over by heavy buses and trucks day in, day out for years and are still where they were originally placed.

The regular granite setts that are used on the kerbs in Charlbury, incredibly solid as they are, are short and tend to get dislodged too easily. They only need to be driven over occasionally by refuse trucks and vans to work loose, and there are loads lying around as a result. It's no wonder that the corner at Enstone crossroads, which gets such a battering, has been left in this terrible state.

I am sure Alex and Michael are also right re materials.

Wed 4 Sep, 23:15

This is a 'standard' problem with a tarmac surface where HGVs are required to make a sharp low speed turn manouver. The usual solution is to use a concrete surface.

Wed 4 Sep, 19:30

There has always been an issue here, this is because hgvs need to turn a sharp left to avoid the 7.5 weight limit.  This causes the rear tyres to drag therefore resulting in the tarmac lifting.  Perhaps when repairing the junction the base layer would need to be a heavier duty.

Wed 4 Sep, 18:47

The kerb on that corner has been costed for repair but has yet to be scheduled. I have chased this today with officers.

Wed 4 Sep, 11:09

Hello Everyone. Recently logged  in a request for Fix my/our street to come and have a look at the rapidly evolving pothole on the Banbury Hill and Enstone Road Crossroads next to the old Toll Gate Cottage. A couple of cars have had their tyre sidewall shredded on the left turn. It is also extremely dangerous for cyclists and even more pedestrians potentially tripping into traffic on that busy turn, especially as the nights draw in darker. A traffic cone was put on the ‘pavement’ by a good samaritan. Nevertheless it has been driven over and crushed a few time now. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.